With the amplifier board and tone control board rebuilt, and the filter caps replaced, we can reassemble the Altec 1592B and test it.
First we resolder the tone control board - those 8 connections to the pins at the bottom of the board.
Recall the board is held to the front panel via the tone control pots. Reinstall the nuts and tighten them.
There's a short brass strip that connects the ground from the main/amplifier pc board to the ground buss for the inputs.
When I took the board out originally, I undid the screw that attaches to the board (green arrow). It has a lockwasher and nut under it. I realized after the fact that the way to attach or remove the strip is to undo the screw at the buss end (blue arrow). That end is just a screw, with no nut to attach from the underside.
So this time, I undid that screw on the left, and then attached the right side screw along with the strip to the board. That way you can attach the nut from underneath with the pcb out of the mixer.
I left it a bit loose, since it will have to be adjusted to line up with the buss.
I magnetized the screwdriver so it would hang on to that little screw that goes to the main buss. Not fun to drop those things inside a piece of gear.
Now we put in the four screws holding the main board to the chassis.
And reconnect those big multi-pin connectors back to the board.
I'm not sure why Altec didn't use connectors on the tone board also.
Everything's back in place.
I fired it up and used a microphone to test all of the inputs...it works!
On these projects where you're removing several boards at once and replacing a number of components all at once, you don't have the luxury of replacing a few things and then testing, as you would on a point-to-point wired radio or amplifier.
However, if you're careful and methodical as you go, you'll usually have success. If the gear in question doesn't work after putting it back together, it's usually something not connected or not grounded.
I took off all of the channel input knobs so I could clean the front panel with Simple Green. I just put a small amount on a clean painter's rag and wipe it down and then dry it.
The tone control knob screws take a flat blade, while the big knobs are allen screws.
Now we put all the knobs back on.
I connected the output of a small radio tuned to a local classical music station to the inputs using jumper cables. Looks a mess but works :-)
I didn't have enough XLR plugs to hook it up through the back panel!
I left it on for a couple days to burn it in* and make sure nothing went up in smoke.
*Following that supposed 100 hour break-in for the Silmic caps.
Here's the rebuilt Altec 1592B ready to go into the rack. I also rebuilt 5 1588B microphone input transformers and will post about that next.
Altec 1592B Rebuild Project
Part 1: Overview and Initial Dissassembly
Part 2: Power Amplifier/Main Board
Part 3: Tone Control Board
Part 4: Filter Capacitor Replacement
Part 5: Reassembly (This page)
So, I have an Altec 1611a and a 1592a. I have a variety of the octal preamps, but I want to mod mine for a variety of uses. First, I think that I want at least 1 channel to remain original, but maybe 2 because 1 would be a DI. The other channels I would want direct outs and also include a gain pot for each, as well. What do you think of this? Any suggestions or advice?
ReplyDeleteYour blog is great. I enjoy it a lot.
Sorry for my delayed response. Thanks for the kind words
ReplyDeleteThe schematic I have here is from a thread on a hifi forum about using the preamp modules as you mention:
https://crawlsbackward.blogspot.com/2016/04/altec-1588b-rebuild-modification.html
I think if you follow that you should be able to tap the output to use independent of the regular mixer output. You probably could just disconnect the lead where it goes to the mixer board and run a shielded line out.
I'm not sure how much output level you will get, and I also wonder about the impedance, but it's worth a try.
Very nice blog. Very detailed and informative. Unfortunately allot of it is over my head. I just don’t have the technical experience. That said. You seem to be the guy to ask.
ReplyDeleteI have two functional Altec 1592B mixers. My question is it possible to stack them and use them as a single stereo mixer and control the master volume for both channels with just one of the master volume controls? And how would I or what’s the best way to do that. Also I was wondering what I would do if that is possible what I would do if I had a mono input like a microphone but wanted it’s signal to go through both mixers (channels). I’m supposing one mixer would be a mirror copy of the other with one being the left channel and the other the right. Any ideas or insight you could give me would be much appreciated.
Thank you
Hi - Thanks for the kind words! I'm not really an expert but I know a little about the Altecs.
ReplyDeleteKeep in mind they are mono mixers. They really were intended to be used as PA mixers. One of my Altecs had been used at an ice skating rink for music and PA! That's what they were designed for - to take a bunch of mono sources and mix them to mono.
Keeping that in mind, you can't use them in stereo and control them with a master on one of them. They only have a mono output. You *could* use them to drive a stereo amp or a stereo mixer with the left channel coming off one of the Altecs, and the right channel on the other, but it seems like a lot of work to run them that way.
Also - the way to take on mic and run it through both mixers would be to split the signal into two - use a Y cord, run one output into one mixer and the other into the other. Then you'd have the same signal coming out of both mixers. You'd still have to take the two outputs and run them through another mixer or amp as I mentioned above.